Diagram of Cable Ties?

Topics related to the ownership, maintenance, equipping, operation, and riding of the R1150R.

Moderator: Moderators

Diagram of Cable Ties?

Postby gregor » Fri May 22, 2009 9:21 am

This has been extensively documented in this forum, and Cyclerob posted a diagram of exactly which ties to cut, which are on the right side of the bike near the horn. ...

I have searched - there are lots of references but how do I find the diagram? :oops:
2002 black 180 degree single spark V twin
User avatar
gregor
Basic User
 
Posts: 553
Joined: Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:24 pm
Location: Derbyshire, England

Re: Diagram of Cable Ties?

Postby Phang » Fri May 22, 2009 10:10 am

This?

Image
Image
User avatar
Phang
Lifer
 
Posts: 94
Joined: Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:02 am
Location: Singapore

Re: Diagram of Cable Ties?

Postby gregor » Fri May 22, 2009 11:09 am

Thanks- glad someone else is with it! :)
2002 black 180 degree single spark V twin
User avatar
gregor
Basic User
 
Posts: 553
Joined: Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:24 pm
Location: Derbyshire, England

Re: Diagram of Cable Ties?

Postby cswett » Fri May 22, 2009 2:33 pm

I cut about every tie I could find in the front and replaced them with much looser zip ties. Was that a mistake?
cswett
Basic User
 
Posts: 145
Joined: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:48 pm
Location: Sacramento, CA

Re: Diagram of Cable Ties?

Postby taosports » Fri May 22, 2009 11:39 pm

cswett wrote:I cut about every tie I could find in the front and replaced them with much looser zip ties. Was that a mistake?


No, not a problem at all. The ones pointed out in the above diagram are the most important to loosen because they move (rub) with the movement of the handlebar.
User avatar
taosports
Double Lifer
 
Posts: 928
Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:22 pm
Location: San Francisco Bay Area

Re: Diagram of Cable Ties?

Postby KiwiRR » Sat May 23, 2009 12:12 am

Only thing to watch out for if you cut the ties (and don't replace them - like me :) ) is that the cables don't catch on the horn cable.....I found out once the horn cables severed. Easy fix was to loosen and rotate the horn to avoid the clash.
-------------------
'02 R1150R, Wellington NZ
User avatar
KiwiRR
Basic User
 
Posts: 27
Joined: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:55 am

Re: Diagram of Cable Ties?

Postby CycleRob » Sat May 23, 2009 12:18 am

You don't just "loosen" them, you remove them! The 2 wire harnesses (2002 model L & R) are then free to hang and bend very slightly over a much larger cable length. Those zipties are not needed and any mechanic that examined them would know they will damage the wiring inside. There aren't any pinching parts to damage the now unrestrained harnesses as they both just "hang loose".

The original (public) pic link is here:
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r87/CycleRob/Bike/Modifys/CutTies.jpg
`09 F800ST

Member since Sept 10, 2001

"Talent, On Loan, From God" --Rush Limbaugh--
User avatar
CycleRob
Honorary Lifer
 
Posts: 2637
Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:29 am
Location: Enjoying retirement in Gainesville GA. USA

Re: Diagram of Cable Ties?

Postby Phang » Sat May 23, 2009 1:18 am

Oppss, the diagram which I posted belongs to iowabeakster.
Image
User avatar
Phang
Lifer
 
Posts: 94
Joined: Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:02 am
Location: Singapore

Re: Diagram of Cable Ties?

Postby mwelker » Sat May 23, 2009 3:51 pm

Is this about the Technical Service Bulletin about the instrument wiring harness being chafed or pinched? My dealer gave me a copy of the TSB one day when I was there for a new tire (I didn't have the bike with me). The service advisor said it was not covered under any warranty (my bike was out of factory warranty). The TSB provides an aftersales solution of installing an edge protector. Has anyone done this, or are you just cutting the cable ties and letting the wires hang loose, which is what it sounds like.
LONE R
mwelker
Basic User
 
Posts: 3
Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:22 pm
Location: PA

Re: Diagram of Cable Ties?

Postby Buckster » Sat May 23, 2009 4:10 pm

It sounds like you can do that. I cut any that were snug and replaced them making sure there was plenty o slack. Some I did leave off completely.
Buckster '03R
#543
User avatar
Buckster
Lifer
 
Posts: 1024
Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:53 pm
Location: Richmond, VA

Re: Diagram of Cable Ties?

Postby snowprick » Sat May 23, 2009 8:41 pm

I use 5/8 double sided Velcro tape. Much neater and better all round. No it doesn't melt.
Rod
2001 R1150R Black of course (sold)
2009 F800GS Black & yellow of course
Apple Macintosh
User avatar
snowprick
Lifer
 
Posts: 397
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:33 am
Location: Manila, Philippines

Re: Diagram of Cable Ties?

Postby yen_kofu » Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:38 pm

Does any one know what is the 「edge protector」?
Thanks
yen_kofu
Basic User
 
Posts: 9
Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:49 pm

Re: Diagram of Cable Ties?

Postby snowprick » Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:52 pm

yen_kofu wrote:Does any one know what is the 「edge protector」?
Thanks

Its a plastic gizmo that fits round the edge of the hole. Yo can use a bit of 3/16 plastic tubing, just slit it down its length, cut to length and push it on to the edge of the hole. If it does not want to stay in place then fill it with silicone adhesive before you install.
Rod
2001 R1150R Black of course (sold)
2009 F800GS Black & yellow of course
Apple Macintosh
User avatar
snowprick
Lifer
 
Posts: 397
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:33 am
Location: Manila, Philippines

Re: Diagram of Cable Ties?

Postby yen_kofu » Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:08 pm

understood !
hole or edge protector
many kind of it
thanks snowprick
yen_kofu
Basic User
 
Posts: 9
Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:49 pm

Re: Diagram of Cable Ties?

Postby CycleRob » Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:03 pm

The problem with those Zipties is that they tightly restrain both main wire harnesses and force them to repeatedly bend sharply in the same place at the Ziptie. If you still have those offending Zipties in place, just turn your steering lock-2-lock while observing how those 2 main harnesses bend. You'll see them folding/moving/bending in one location. That point source repetitive stress bending eventually breaks the cluster of wires inside. When that happens you loose very important functions. :shock:

The factory putting those Zipties there is a total mindfart. In August of 2001 I stumbled upon this huge mistake while doing something else, like waxing my new bike. I couldn't believe something like this was signed off and implemented. Seeing such incompetence made me wonder what other mistakes were made. :-k
`09 F800ST

Member since Sept 10, 2001

"Talent, On Loan, From God" --Rush Limbaugh--
User avatar
CycleRob
Honorary Lifer
 
Posts: 2637
Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:29 am
Location: Enjoying retirement in Gainesville GA. USA

Re: Diagram of Cable Ties?

Postby kantuckid » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:02 am

Also a good place to mention the cable ties on the bundles that lead to the grip area-they will KILL! your bike. I had the problem of them pinching the kill switch wire and have since learned that is fairly common. Same solution mentioned above...
kantuckid
Basic User
 
Posts: 259
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:17 am
Location: Frenchburg,KY

Re: Diagram of Cable Ties?

Postby kickingback77 » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:21 am

I came across this forum when I was wondering which ties to cut on my bike. My question is what is the best type of replacement zip tie? Stainless steel zip ties so they don't melt, Velcro so you can adjust them but they might come undone, or just the basic zip ties with a 50 pound tensile strength. I was looking at this place to get them - http://www.buycableties.com which ones are best for this type of mod? :-k
kickingback77
Basic User
 
Posts: 1
Joined: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:10 am

Re: Diagram of Cable Ties?

Postby kantuckid » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:48 am

My comment wasn't about the material that the cable ties are made from!!! The issue is that they can cramp the wires leading to the grip area controls!!! I'm short armed & ride with bar riser/setbacks on my R1150R which compounds the issue. OTOH, I see nothing wrong with a cheapo black nylon cable tie but for some bikes a few need to be removed on each side if you have my situation. They are a bit tight OEM regardless of bar setup.
kantuckid
Basic User
 
Posts: 259
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:17 am
Location: Frenchburg,KY

Re: Diagram of Cable Ties?

Postby Ol' Jeffers » Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:59 pm

kickingback77 wrote:I came across this forum when I was wondering which ties to cut on my bike. My question is what is the best type of replacement zip tie? Stainless steel zip ties so they don't melt, Velcro so you can adjust them but they might come undone, or just the basic zip ties with a 50 pound tensile strength. I was looking at this place to get them - http://www.buycableties.com which ones are best for this type of mod? :-k


Thing is KB77 the ones that are important to cut are not going to be replaced.....end of dilemma, methinks. :-k
OJ........everybody's pal!!
User avatar
Ol' Jeffers
Member
 
Posts: 255
Joined: Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:04 am
Location: Aylesford, SE England.

Re: Diagram of Cable Ties?

Postby ekyang » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:15 pm

Very helpful - just trimmed off my zip ties with a Dremel cutting wheel. But I noticed that for some of the wiring harnesses the insulation for them have already cracked through. What are you all using to replace the broken wiring insulation?
Image
Image
ekyang
Basic User
 
Posts: 55
Joined: Tue May 14, 2013 5:47 pm

Next

Return to R1150R

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 5 guests