Quick ? Re: lowering footpegs

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Quick ? Re: lowering footpegs

Postby Photoguy » Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:30 pm

Hi all- reading about some of the different project bikes here and it got me thinking about lowering the pegs a bit. My bike has the low seat and while reasonably comfortable from a flat footing standpoint, from a legroom standpoint I wouldn’t mind squeaking out just a bit more. I suppose there’s two directions to getting a bit more stretch- going higher with the seat or going lower with the pegs. I’d hate to order an expensive higher seat to discover that now the bike is too tall for these short legs! So that leaves the pegs as a possible step 1.
Just wondering for those who’ve done the peg lowering- is it a given that brake height and shifter lever need moving or additional parts as well? Or can they stay put? Since it’s hard to imagine what the new spatial relationship between lower pegs and existing levers might be without having the parts on the bike or at least in hand.
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Re: Quick ? Re: lowering foitpegs

Postby swamper » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:59 pm

I drag my pegs in the stock position all the time, wouldn't think of lowering them.
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Re: Quick ? Re: lowering foitpegs

Postby skylarmav1 » Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:24 am

Check out this guy, used GS gear to gain 2.5 in. of more leg space.

https://youtu.be/GXUxL_Qk0PU

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Re: Quick ? Re: lowering foitpegs

Postby sykospain » Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:07 am

Yes, but - yes, but.
In my experience of doing the same mod., detailed in other threads on this site, there's a deal of fiddling to do in order to make the foot controls on both sides of the bike line up with the OEM setup that the bike came with.
Altogether a few days' worth of tweaking : - On the brake pedal side, there's a problem with side-stand boot access so a new loop needs welding on, the centre-stand boot-spur needs bending to avoid a clash with the pedal mounting plate, a different piston is required for the brake master cylinder, a much longer hose is needed between the master cylinder and the reservoir because the cylinder is much lower down.

And on the gearshift side, a different take-off point needs to be drilled in the side of the new pedal to suit the rod that links the pedal to the right-angled shift actuator lever, plus a new longer braided hose is needed for non-ABS models to link the master cylinder tot he brake caliper.

Altogether, quite a bit of farting about is required to achieve the benefit of a 5 cm lower footrest meaning a much more comfortable knee-bend when astride a normal-height driver's seat.

But that plus the 'roadster', not Rockster, bar is well-worth it. Makes that bike a 200 mile ride-interval vehicle, not 100 before joint pain becomes intolerable.
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Re: Quick ? Re: lowering foitpegs

Postby Photoguy » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:22 am

Appreciate the input guys. Presume we’re talking about the gs bracket specifically? It sounds like the simple goal of adding some leg room via the pegs may be more than I want to bite off at the moment. I’d presume that any brand of lowering brackets would present the same shifter/brake lever issues. But it’s something to think about along with a taller seat option. Wishing there was a way to try before you buy but I guess that’s life.

I’ve never dragged the pegs...I ride like an old fart ;)

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Re: Quick ? Re: lowering foitpegs

Postby Photoguy » Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:00 am

Updating in case anyone has any interest. I installed a set of adaptors that lowered the pegs by 1 3/4”. Turned out they were in a box with some other misc stuff the previous owner had given me and I was happy to find them. I don’t recall him mentioning them but he could have as the buying process was hectic.

I installed without tampering with either brake or shifter lever and they worked just fine. Took all of 5 minutes to get used to the new relationship between feet and levers. I only missed a shift or two initially and then settled right in to shifting smoothly. I’m accustomed to taking my foot off the peg slightly to apply braking from my trials bike days and this works the same. Increased legroom so far so good. Only obvious downside at this early point is accessing the center stand lever is tight and the new peg position falls right where I’m accustimed to putting my feet at a stop so I hit my ankles with the pegs a few times. I’ll keep em on the bike for a while to get a better feel for the benefits/downsides.

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Re: Quick ? Re: lowering foitpegs

Postby Sunbeemer » Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:29 am

I considered this too, but after dragging the standard pegs a few times (and breaking off a feeler) I decided they wouldn't work for me, so I went with a higher seat, which helps. I'd be interested to know what you think when you do some twisties with them.
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Re: Quick ? Re: lowering foitpegs

Postby Tundra Dweller » Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:05 am

Photoguy wrote:Updating in case anyone has any interest. I installed a set of adaptors that lowered the pegs by 1 3/4”. Turned out they were in a box with some other misc stuff the previous owner had given me and I was happy to find them. I don’t recall him mentioning them but he could have as the buying process was hectic.

I installed without tampering with either brake or shifter lever and they worked just fine. Took all of 5 minutes to get used to the new relationship between feet and levers. I only missed a shift or two initially and then settled right in to shifting smoothly. I’m accustomed to taking my foot off the peg slightly to apply braking from my trials bike days and this works the same. Increased legroom so far so good. Only obvious downside at this early point is accessing the center stand lever is tight and the new peg position falls right where I’m accustimed to putting my feet at a stop so I hit my ankles with the pegs a few times. I’ll keep em on the bike for a while to get a better feel for the benefits/downsides.


Congrats on that find! Depending on what model you ride I have a set of brand new linkages for my 2002 R that you can have.
They allow you to lower the shift and brake pedal to match the pegs.
For some reason the vendor sent me a second set after I had installed the peg brackets and linkages.
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Re: Quick ? Re: lowering foitpegs

Postby Photoguy » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:43 am

Pm sent. 2003 r1150r is the bike.
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Re: Quick ? Re: lowering foitpegs

Postby EasyBee » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:15 pm

I use this Wunderlich adapter set, comes with breakpedal and gearshift adjustment fittings.
https://www.wunderlich.de/shop/en/rider-footrest-lowering-ergo-31520-001-1.html
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Re: Quick ? Re: lowering foitpegs

Postby Photoguy » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:03 pm

^that looks like a nice complete well thought out package. As my bike
currently stands: I’ve installed the generic lowing adaptors that we’re in a box of spares that came with the bike. I’ve adjusted the brake pedal to go as low as it’s OEM components allowed and that seems to be working fine. I haven’t touched the shift lever as the height seems ok. I’m thinking about getting a shift lever enlarger that I saw from Hornig to see if I can’t squeeze out a tiny bit more length horizontally to make up for the fact that the new foot peg placement is a little wider due to the lowering brackets and I need to pivot my foot
slightly laterally to reach the lever to make up for the new placement. It’s not too big of a deal but could use a little tinkering to make it better.

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Re: Quick ? Re: lowering foitpegs

Postby swamper » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:51 pm

I run stock and drag the pegs. I do have the Russell Day Long seat which is a little higher.
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Re: Quick ? Re: lowering foitpegs

Postby ruddy » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:45 pm

I have both the higher seat and lowered pegs on mine. Yes, I scrape a peg feeler occasionally, but the reduced bend in my knees is worth it. I installed an extended shifter, which works better, but I didn't really have to. I drilled & tapped a hole in the end of the brake pedal and used a 6mm bolt with thick rubber washers to extend it about an inch. That made it easier to apply the rear brake since I didn't have to turn in my toe to reach the pedal properly.
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Re: Quick ? Re: lowering footpegs

Postby Barista » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:01 pm

Following this thread with intense interest. I really need to get these pegs lowered on the 04 that I aquired a couple of days ago. I normally consider my long legs a blessing, but not with this bike. Cramping is not fun when leaving from a stop in traffic. :shock:
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Re: Quick ? Re: lowering footpegs

Postby Photoguy » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:11 pm

Hey Barista-
I'm very happy with the foot pegs lowered. Seems to really make a big difference in the comfort of the bike. I'm not as tall as you (5'9) so the stock short seat is good for me as far as being able to reach the ground. You might want the taller seat for the extra leg room. My lowering adaptors came with my bike; I've no idea who made them, they're just generic machined aluminum brackets that connect between the pegs and the old mounting points...probably 1.75" lower and an equal amount 'out'. There seem to be a few different ones and Suburban Machinery seemed to always come up in a search. Only issue I'm working through is that the new peg position required lowering the brake pedal a bit which I did by adjusting the rod that goes into the master cylinder and lengthening the bolt that acts as a 'stop' and activates the brake light switch. There was enough adjustment in those to lower the pedal to a better spot... and I'm trying to extend it slightly length wise to make up for the new off-set position. It's not too bad, just one of those things that I think could be a little better.
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Re: Quick ? Re: lowering footpegs

Postby Barista » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:14 pm

Thanks Photoguy. Your photo and info were very helpful. The Wunderlich kit comes with fittings to lower and enlarge the shifter and brake so that's the one I'm ordering. It's pricey at $313, but I'm finding that's true about anything associated with these bikes. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Re: Quick ? Re: lowering footpegs

Postby Photoguy » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:48 am

Best of Luck B. I think it will make a big difference...it did for me. You may also find yourself lowering the brake lever as I did so it falls below your new foot position, and I found that there was just enough adjustment to do that. And a minor thing that I'd read about and did encounter is the lowered left peg makes accessing the center stand lever a little dicey- not enough space to get your foot in between the foot peg and gear shift lever. I simply keep a short mini bungy cord wrapped on the bike frame to hold the left foot peg up and out of the way for when I want to put the bike on the center stand.


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