Potential problem
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Re: Potential problem
Gentlemen - thanks for the very insightful info on this.I am now a new and proud owner of a used RR.
I literally took delivery of a 2004 R1150R yesterday (with only 8300 miles on it) and trailered it back through some torrential downpours from Charleston, SC, to Charlotte, NC. When I pulled into a gas station to fill up my car, I went ahead and filled up the tank on the R1150R. Lo and behold, the water picked up by the storms made its way unceremoniously into the gas tank. I was shocked and horrified that my drain plugs were plugged up and the problem goes back as far as the '04s.
As part of my detailed cleaning and servicing I'll be ordering the S1000 part - I'm hoping that the part fits '04 RRs. Thanks for the insightful info - I'll be removing the gas tank as well to check for any mung/rust in the process.
I literally took delivery of a 2004 R1150R yesterday (with only 8300 miles on it) and trailered it back through some torrential downpours from Charleston, SC, to Charlotte, NC. When I pulled into a gas station to fill up my car, I went ahead and filled up the tank on the R1150R. Lo and behold, the water picked up by the storms made its way unceremoniously into the gas tank. I was shocked and horrified that my drain plugs were plugged up and the problem goes back as far as the '04s.
As part of my detailed cleaning and servicing I'll be ordering the S1000 part - I'm hoping that the part fits '04 RRs. Thanks for the insightful info - I'll be removing the gas tank as well to check for any mung/rust in the process.
- Steve in VT
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Re: Potential problem
After reading this post, I decided to check the fill cap area on my '07 R1200R. I got the cap off, but the 2 of the 3 seal hold down screws were rusted in place. I could see the blistered paint (primer?) in the bottom of the well, but I couldn't get at it. It took me 2 days of futzing with penetrating oil to finally get the screws out (verrrrrryyyyyy slowly, rocking back and forth). The rust covered about half the well. I plugged the opening with a rag and sanded away most of the nasty stuff. Painted it with a brush and some high-gloss enamel paint. Paint is actually better than picture shows.
Two small holes might be drains. I'll make sure they're open before reassembly.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7360/8992 ... 3c2e_z.jpg
Two small holes might be drains. I'll make sure they're open before reassembly.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7360/8992 ... 3c2e_z.jpg
Peugeot PX-10, '07 R1200R, Canon 780is.
No, kid, I won't do a wheelie. I'd fall on my ass.
No, kid, I won't do a wheelie. I'd fall on my ass.
- Steve in VT
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Re: Potential problem
Thanks to the good info on this BB, including some really fine pictures, I nipped my rust problem in the bud. Second coat of paint is drying, and MAX BMW is shipping me the seal ring from the S1000RR. I guess every model has its problems, but on such a costly component, you'd think the Germans would have done a better job of rustproofing (or waterproofing).
A lot of gunk came out when I ran the tap down the holes. I coated the tap with grease first. The holes are blind, so no crap will fall in the tank, but the grease catches most of the crud. And it may help stop future rusting.
The 2 vent passages are clear, but I don't think they're for water. They seem to be just for fuel overflow. That's why I'm installing the seal ring.
Thanks again to whoever figured out this "off label" fix.
A lot of gunk came out when I ran the tap down the holes. I coated the tap with grease first. The holes are blind, so no crap will fall in the tank, but the grease catches most of the crud. And it may help stop future rusting.
The 2 vent passages are clear, but I don't think they're for water. They seem to be just for fuel overflow. That's why I'm installing the seal ring.
Thanks again to whoever figured out this "off label" fix.
Peugeot PX-10, '07 R1200R, Canon 780is.
No, kid, I won't do a wheelie. I'd fall on my ass.
No, kid, I won't do a wheelie. I'd fall on my ass.
Re: Potential problem
G’day All,
I too read this excellent thread and checked my new to me 07 1200R and found this
http://s1241.photobucket.com/user/ejute ... sort=9&o=0
Not happy!! My next decision was weather to drain and remove the tank or fabricate a plug so no nasty bits fall in the tank
This is what I came up with from the fine collection of stuff that might come in handy type things I have kicking around in the man cave.
The Plug o matic
It did the job well and I could move the top support bar around while cleaning to get to all the affected area.
I removed all the big stuff by hand and then got into it with a poor mans dremil.
Purchased a POR starter kit for $35AU and followed the instructions……..sort of I think I put too thick a first coat and it bubbled a little in the corners, so I just hit it with dremil again and recoated.
The POR stuff is good gear…....sets very hard, even in the chilly confines of a Canberra man cave in winter.
The clamp was easy to remove and an inspection with the torch(that’s a flashlight for Yanks) revealed no debris had made it’s way into the tank.
On the subject of the tank I did drop a screw into the tank while working out how to make my Plug o matic , to my relief the area below the filler hole is pretty flat so it was easy to get with a magnet.
Hope this is understandable
Cheers
Mark
I too read this excellent thread and checked my new to me 07 1200R and found this
http://s1241.photobucket.com/user/ejute ... sort=9&o=0
Not happy!! My next decision was weather to drain and remove the tank or fabricate a plug so no nasty bits fall in the tank
This is what I came up with from the fine collection of stuff that might come in handy type things I have kicking around in the man cave.
The Plug o matic
It did the job well and I could move the top support bar around while cleaning to get to all the affected area.
I removed all the big stuff by hand and then got into it with a poor mans dremil.
Purchased a POR starter kit for $35AU and followed the instructions……..sort of I think I put too thick a first coat and it bubbled a little in the corners, so I just hit it with dremil again and recoated.
The POR stuff is good gear…....sets very hard, even in the chilly confines of a Canberra man cave in winter.
The clamp was easy to remove and an inspection with the torch(that’s a flashlight for Yanks) revealed no debris had made it’s way into the tank.
On the subject of the tank I did drop a screw into the tank while working out how to make my Plug o matic , to my relief the area below the filler hole is pretty flat so it was easy to get with a magnet.
Hope this is understandable
Cheers
Mark
Re: Potential problem
Nice! Welcome to the forum. It's summer here in the northern hemisphere, man caves are for winterejute wrote:G’day All,
I too read this excellent thread and checked my new to me 07 1200R and found this
http://s1241.photobucket.com/user/ejute ... sort=9&o=0
Not happy!! My next decision was weather to drain and remove the tank or fabricate a plug so no nasty bits fall in the tank
This is what I came up with from the fine collection of stuff that might come in handy type things I have kicking around in the man cave.
The Plug o matic
It did the job well and I could move the top support bar around while cleaning to get to all the affected area.
I removed all the big stuff by hand and then got into it with a poor mans dremil.
Purchased a POR starter kit for $35AU and followed the instructions……..sort of I think I put too thick a first coat and it bubbled a little in the corners, so I just hit it with dremil again and recoated.
The POR stuff is good gear…....sets very hard, even in the chilly confines of a Canberra man cave in winter.
The clamp was easy to remove and an inspection with the torch(that’s a flashlight for Yanks) revealed no debris had made it’s way into the tank.
On the subject of the tank I did drop a screw into the tank while working out how to make my Plug o matic , to my relief the area below the filler hole is pretty flat so it was easy to get with a magnet.
Hope this is understandable
Cheers
Mark
2011 R1200R RED
1996 Virago XV 750
1996 Virago XV 750
Re: Potential problem
I just ordered my gasket today. Is this still regarded as a necessary fix or have new unforeseen problems surfaced as a result of the fix (like trapped water)?
Barry - Minnesota
'12 R1200R Classic
'05 F650GS
'12 R1200R Classic
'05 F650GS
Re: Potential problem
Have not heard or seen a report of any problems resulting from installing the gasket.badbs101 wrote:I just ordered my gasket today. Is this still regarded as a necessary fix or have new unforeseen problems surfaced as a result of the fix (like trapped water)?
Kevin Huddy
Intrepid Incompetent
Canyon Creek, MT
Team Pterodactyl Montana Outpost
Intrepid Incompetent
Canyon Creek, MT
Team Pterodactyl Montana Outpost
Re: Potential problem
All right gentlemen - tried to install an ABCDeckring from a BMW S1000RR on my 2004 R1150R and am confused. How exactly is this gasket supposed to fit? I"m not sure it's supposed to fit the way I've got it on there because it definitely is not what I call a perfect fit.
Deck Ring
http://www.shutterfly.com/lightbox/view ... 7cbb382743
Size relative to the gas cap:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4dd3 ... /ry%3D400/
Size relative to gas cap open:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4dd3 ... /ry%3D400/
Profile view of gasket - which way is the right way?
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4dd3 ... /ry%3D400/
Gas cap removal:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4dd3 ... /ry%3D400/
Gas cap removed:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4dd3 ... /ry%3D400/
Bottom of gas cap:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4dd3 ... /ry%3D400/
Attempt at fitting gasket:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4dd3 ... /ry%3D400/
This doesn't look right:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4dd3 ... /ry%3D400/
Still doesn't look right:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4dd3 ... /ry%3D400/
Maybe I'm doing this wrong:
Under the gas cap liner:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4dd3 ... /ry%3D400/
Alright - what am I doing wrong with the gasket here? Or does this part just not fit?
Deck Ring
http://www.shutterfly.com/lightbox/view ... 7cbb382743
Size relative to the gas cap:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4dd3 ... /ry%3D400/
Size relative to gas cap open:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4dd3 ... /ry%3D400/
Profile view of gasket - which way is the right way?
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4dd3 ... /ry%3D400/
Gas cap removal:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4dd3 ... /ry%3D400/
Gas cap removed:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4dd3 ... /ry%3D400/
Bottom of gas cap:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4dd3 ... /ry%3D400/
Attempt at fitting gasket:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4dd3 ... /ry%3D400/
This doesn't look right:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4dd3 ... /ry%3D400/
Still doesn't look right:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4dd3 ... /ry%3D400/
Maybe I'm doing this wrong:
Under the gas cap liner:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4dd3 ... /ry%3D400/
Alright - what am I doing wrong with the gasket here? Or does this part just not fit?
Re: Potential problem
It's a perfect fit on the R1200R and a lot of us have used it. Where did you hear it would fit a R1150R, maybe you should check the 1150 list.ekyang wrote:All right gentlemen - tried to install an ABCDeckring from a BMW S1000RR on my 2004 R1150R and am confused. How exactly is this gasket supposed to fit? I"m not sure it's supposed to fit the way I've got it on there because it definitely is not what I call a perfect fit.
Harry Costello -- Jersey Shore
2007 R1200R
1974 + 75 CB125S
1971 R75
2011 Sportster
BMWMOA 57358
2007 R1200R
1974 + 75 CB125S
1971 R75
2011 Sportster
BMWMOA 57358
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Re: Potential problem
Excellent video. Where was this when I needed it? https://youtu.be/jLb0v_d_H5M
07' R1200R Kristall Grau
ex 2007 F650GS
ex 2007 F650GS