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Tire Mileage
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:20 pm
by Bogdan
Well worn topic (pun) but tire choices change. Looked at my rear Pirelli Angel GT. Yup...the wear bars in the center tell me soon it's time for a change. I have just over 8k miles on this tire.
FWIW I'm in St. Louis - road here from Colorado to avail my son of an extra pair of hands. I've been proven a liar, yet again. I swore I'd never change another tire. But...I'll be off to Chicago in a week. My brother in that, not so fair, city, has a real tire change set-up - not the cheap Chinese contraption I used for years.I was so happy when I gave it away.
I need to choose and order a set as my front tire is also well along. What kind of mileage have you guys been getting? I have no complaints as to the Pirellis but I thought I'd get more life out of them. Naive? People rave about the Michelin Pilot Road 4; is it worth plopping down $300, American for a set. I could get a set of Pirellis' for $100 less. My son likes the Conti Motions on his 650 Ninja. Anyway...is 8k miles all I should expect on a 2004 R1150R? I'm not a super aggressive rider but compared to what?
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Re: Tire Mileage
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:48 pm
by swamper
Stick with the Pirelli Angel GT or try the new ones, but they are more expensive. I got the same mileage as you but my front wore out first.
Re: Tire Mileage
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:31 pm
by two wheel tango
Subjective... But some data points for your consideration. I'd give the Angel GT2 a shot.
I've been through many sets of tires over the past 2-3 years. At least 2 changes per year. Consistent riding style on consistent roads.... 4-6 hours through my favorite loops most weekend mornings during the riding season. Very spirited runs.
If I get 6000 miles out of a set I'm doing good.
1. Dunlop roadsmart 3. Neutral.... Feel/confidence just ok. Not great. Changed around 6.2k but could have squeezed out 7K. Decent in the wet. No oh poo moments that I can recollect. Used once only.
2. Angel GT. Great feel/confidence, turn-in. Solid in the wet. Close to wear bars around 5K. Done by 6K if that. But went through several sets... 3 or 4. Excellent choice. Go to tire. Suits this bike.
3. Pilot Road 4. Not impressed. Never faltered... But feel/feedback was far from great. Close to wear bars by 5k.. done by 6k. Used once only.
4. Roadtec 01. Great feel confidence. Slightly slower turn-in than the angel GT... But very stable and excellent feedback and grip. And lousy mileage. At the wear bars between 4-4.5k. and done by 5K. Good in wet too.
5. Angel gt2. Outstanding so far... Only got 2.5K but exceptional all round upgrade from the regular GT. Grip/feedback/feel/turn-in/wet all exceptional. Will see how long it lasts... My eye is reasonably well calibrated... I'm guessing 6.5-7k. I'll report back....
Re: Tire Mileage
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:20 am
by riceburner
I'd be pretty happy about getting 8K from a pair of Angel STs (not tried the GT).
Bear in mind that bike tyres need to be a LOT softer than car tyres, so you're going to wear them out MUCH faster. Especially if you ride in any way enthusiastically (which I do.
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Re: Tire Mileage
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:31 am
by sjbmw
I used to get 8500 out of metzlers for years... switched to pilot roads and got a little more...
Re: Tire Mileage
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:37 pm
by Bogdan
Thanks Gentleman, These posts clear things up. I was out of the street tire loop for 20 years when I lived with a dual sport KLR. Dual sport tires are a different game. Before the KLR ( I'm moto-monogamous ) I rode a BMW airhead - also used to get 8000 out of my rear Metzler Marathon. I thought with tire development since then, I'd get more.I guess, with more power and weight, I'm in the same place. I ride about 5000 miles a year; half of that, the kind of ride Tango described, except mine is in the Colorado Mountains. The other 2,500 is my yearly, relaxing trip to St. Louis and Chicago. It makes sense that I get a couple of K more miles then those whose rides are mostly spirited. I've decided - big spender that I am - to go with a set of Angle GT 11s.
Re: Tire Mileage
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:17 pm
by Sunbeemer
Tire wear seems to depend on several factors including rubber composition, riding style, road surface, and temperature. This was dramatically demonstrated when I moved to Mississippi from Florida and the mileages I got riding the same rear tires in each state (Bridgestone Battleax BT-023's) rose from 7696 to 12889. With the same tire I suspect cooler temperature is at least as important to tire longevity as road surface and riding style. I never got more than 9000 miles out of a rear tire in Florida (including Z4, Z6, Diablo Stada, BT-56), but am now getting 50+% more mileage in MS. Of course, I am slowing down (a little:-) these days!
Re: Tire Mileage
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:11 am
by Buckster
Sunbeemer wrote:Tire wear seems to depend on several factors including rubber composition, riding style, road surface, and temperature. This was dramatically demonstrated when I moved to Mississippi from Florida...
I would think the sidewall wear would increase moving from Florida...
Re: Tire Mileage
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:25 pm
by lcarlson
After running Metzelers for years on my R1150R and getting about 6000 miles out of them, I decided to try the Michelin Pilot Road 4s. The only version of this tire that fit my bike was the PR4 GT. DO NOT MOUNT THESE TIRES ON A 500 LB MOTORCYCLE! On the GTs, my bike rode and handled like a garbage truck. It was so bad that I initially thought there was something wrong with the suspension or running gear, but it was just the tires. They are completely unsuitable for this bike. I’m back to the tried and true Metzeler Z8 interacts, and all is again well.
Re: Tire Mileage
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:03 pm
by Sunbeemer
I would think the sidewall wear would increase moving from Florida...
Definitely have narrower chicken strips here!
Re: Tire Mileage
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:08 pm
by Biff's R
I personally think that the Michelin Pilot Road 1 was the best all around tire for the 1150R, unfortunately the got wise and upgraded them. I had one set of Pilot Road 2 and they scalloped like the old original Macadams. Metzelers were ok, but I ended up getting the Bridgestone 021, then 023, and then the t30. They were significantly cheaper than the others, and the front tire wore evenly. I would get about 9k miles on the front t30 and about 5500-6000 on the rears. But the cost worked out better and the performance was never lacking.
Re: Tire Mileage
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:55 pm
by swamper
The mileage isn't going to be the greatest but Metzeler M7RR are great tires on these bikes.
Re: Tire Mileage
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:27 pm
by two wheel tango
Follow up on the Angel GT II’s.... ended up with 6700 miles. So roughly 10% better than its predecessor. Great tire and would go to it again... but wanted to give the Conti Road Attack 3’s a shot first; just got them mounted this weekend.
two wheel tango wrote:Subjective... But some data points for your consideration. I'd give the Angel GT2 a shot.
I've been through many sets of tires over the past 2-3 years. At least 2 changes per year. Consistent riding style on consistent roads.... 4-6 hours through my favorite loops most weekend mornings during the riding season. Very spirited runs.
If I get 6000 miles out of a set I'm doing good.
1. Dunlop roadsmart 3. Neutral.... Feel/confidence just ok. Not great. Changed around 6.2k but could have squeezed out 7K. Decent in the wet. No oh ----- moments that I can recollect. Used once only.
2. Angel GT. Great feel/confidence, turn-in. Solid in the wet. Close to wear bars around 5K. Done by 6K if that. But went through several sets... 3 or 4. Excellent choice. Go to tire. Suits this bike.
3. Pilot Road 4. Not impressed. Never faltered... But feel/feedback was far from great. Close to wear bars by 5k.. done by 6k. Used once only.
4. Roadtec 01. Great feel confidence. Slightly slower turn-in than the angel GT... But very stable and excellent feedback and grip. And lousy mileage. At the wear bars between 4-4.5k. and done by 5K. Good in wet too.
5. Angel gt2. Outstanding so far... Only got 2.5K but exceptional all round upgrade from the regular GT. Grip/feedback/feel/turn-in/wet all exceptional. Will see how long it lasts... My eye is reasonably well calibrated... I'm guessing 6.5-7k. I'll report back....
Re: Tire Mileage
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:07 pm
by towerworker
I guess I'll put in my 2 cents. I've been running Shinko 009's for years. Switched to their 705 dual sport tire for some off pavement traction. Currently have about 14K on the front and 11 on the rear. Rear is almost done. Lots of tread left on the front but some cupping so it makes a little noise (other than the usual). Grip has been great regardless of surface and conditions.
Re: Tire Mileage
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:20 pm
by DAM650
i got 13K from my stinko 009
Re: Tire Mileage
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:46 am
by maccraith
I went through PR3's and PR4's on my '03 R1150R in about 6,500 K. I was happy . . . until I put on some Angel GTs. What a positive difference! As Two Wheel Tango said, "Excellent choice; suits the bike." I don't know what the milage will be. However, if it is slightly less than the PR's and I can have this kind of performance and predictability, I will be way happier than I was.
Re: Tire Mileage
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:26 pm
by swamper
I've been getting good mileage with the Angel GTs, 6-7K. Front wears out first for me on the R bikes. I noticed that Pirelli has a new Angel GT 2, hope they don't stop the original Angel GT.
Re: Tire Mileage
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:40 am
by Bogdan
I replaced a set of GTs ( got close to 10K miles ) with GT 2s - they were a bit more expensive. The sidewalls were very stiff - and thus, they were a bear mount.
Re: Tire Mileage
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:58 pm
by towerworker
I'm waiting on some snow here in Virginia so I can try these 705's in some really good deep stuff. I'll report back from the hospital.............
Re: Tire Mileage
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:50 pm
by riceburner
I have to say I like the Angel GTs, just as good as the Diablo Stradas that came before.