I also believe the general consensus is that nothing you can bolt onto a BMW R1200 will result in significant power gains. An improvement over all, sure, but like I said the boxer isn't like a japanese bike ready to have significant gains with common mods.
-Finn
I would disagree about that. My R1200S in its original state had 124 HP and 113 NM. Without touching the engine (only mods is a pipercross airfilter, modified intake, mufflers taken off the HP2 Sport and the ECU modification with Rexxer software) I now have 137 HP and 124 NM. Gaining 13 HP and 11 NM is somewhat significant I would say - moreover I got a much smoother curve.
Its just an example as this is the R section. But the same modifications (except for the muffler) can be applied on the R as well.
I think (know) we're way past the point where shade tree engineering can make a substantial increase in the performance of these modern motorcycles.
+1. I'm not shy about tinkering with things I buy, but when it's come to my Rs, improvements have been exclusively asthetic or funtional. BMW has been trying to wring HP out of the air/oil cooled boxer for a very long time. I trust that any potential gains would be minimal and were probably sacrificed in lieu of something more important (fuel economy, emissions, engine longevity, etc...) The only performance modification I've ever considered was reducing rider weight
I bought an air/oil cooled roadster. If performance is what I wanted, there are definitly plenty of options. 150+ HP bikes are easy to come by nowadays - even in the naked/standard bike class.
N8
- '14 Dark White
- '14 R NineT
- '12 R1200R Classic
- '07 R1200R (Caged)
Guys, just came across this thread.. Perhaps it was too soon to dyno a bike (perhaps not, who knows for sure), but there is no reason to bash the guy or call him an idiot. All that will do is make him upset and whats the point of that?
It is posible to carry on a conversation of varying opinions without name calling. Lets try and treat each other with a little more respect. Pretend you're all sitting around a gentle campfire after a long day of glorious riding.. would you call him an idiot to his face?! Sorry to call you out on it, but just trying to make a point.
Thanks for being civil! (saves me a lot of headache, haha)
-Doug
There seems to be bunch of peeps on this forum who think that R12Rs are made out of paper and fine china, and should never looked at, touched or, god forbid, ridden.
I was thinking of putting on a full exhaust, but I've decided to wait and see what the water-head version looks like before I sink the $$$
Doug wrote:Guys, just came across this thread.. Perhaps it was too soon to dyno a bike (perhaps not, who knows for sure), but there is no reason to bash the guy or call him an idiot.
Doug, I'd be more incensed that the member who wrote that -- right as he might be -- has almost as many posts as you, but appears to be a non-paying "basic user." Name-calling is easy; show the membership love, not so much.
Seeing as the offending statement was posted from Germany I figured it as an error in translation. I guess if English is the posters first language then it could be something else. Maybe an error in judgment.
Harry Costello -- Jersey Shore
2007 R1200R
1974 + 75 CB125S
1971 R75
2020 Guzzi V85TT
BMWMOA 57358
first of all English is not my mother tongue but I believe my English is reasonably well to communicate and to express myself properly. My statement did not refer to the owner of the bike but to the guy/company who did the dyno test. In my opinion it is brainless to dyno a bike with such low mileage and in that respect I made my statement. The owner probably did not know any better but the company/guy who did the dyno should know better!
However if my statement is considered to be offensive I would certainly like to present my humble excuses to the owner of the bike and to the forum. Please be gentle with me as I am just a simple German who is not looking for another Blitzkrieg ...
I don't like dyno runs because the only one I even witnessed involved an eighteen old kid running a Ducati up and holding it there. Something let loose in the engine resulting in a horrible noise and smoke. The reaction of the people doing the run was to laugh.
I guess if you had the money it would be interesting to have a 1000 mile base line run and then another after break in and after any modifications. But I could find other ways to spend that kind of money like sitting outside a gasthaus somewhere in Bavaria sipping a beer on a warm summer day with my bike parked outside.
BTW: My German would bring tears to your eyes.
Harry Costello -- Jersey Shore
2007 R1200R
1974 + 75 CB125S
1971 R75
2020 Guzzi V85TT
BMWMOA 57358
Don't we all have our strengths and weaknesses? Besides my mother tongue I speak English, French and a humble Spanish. But when it comes to maths or chemistry I am a loser!
Anyway what keeps us together here is these airheads, oilheads and hexheads ... I certainly agree with you about that dyno thing. My motivation has always been to optimize my bikes to my personal taste (which is an ongoing and apparently never ending process) and that involves "finding" a little more power and as a consequence - DYNO.
As this is not my thread I would like to refrain from further comments. Nice eve to everybody.
It is interesting to see the comments by many. Everyone has their own ideas of what is right. I personally am happy with my bike, I've owned a lot of bikes and automobiles (new and used). I am very happy with the performance enhancements that I have made. It was my intention to share some (what I thought) were photos that the folks on this forum would enjoy. Take it or leave it, no worries over here, and no need for hostilities.
being happy with your bike is the most important thing. Nobody is hostile here and if you felt offended by my remarks I had already offered my excuses. I beg you to enjoy every second with this fine bike of yours. But please don't get it dynoed again at low mileage ...
How about dropping the whole thing and moving on. What do you want the guy to do rip his clothes and eat sand ???? He apologized twice. How about an oil thread????
Harry Costello -- Jersey Shore
2007 R1200R
1974 + 75 CB125S
1971 R75
2020 Guzzi V85TT
BMWMOA 57358
I too own a 2013 Montego Blue Roadster. What a gorgeous bike!
I picked up my new bike on December 6 and went in for a full hip replacement on the following Tuesday. The dealer put 8 miles on it doing the shakedown cruise. And I put another 8 miles bringing it home. So it sits in my garage with 16 miles on the odometer.
Once I get cleared to ride and the weather clears up I plan to put plenty of miles on real quick. For now, I just go out to the garage and look longingly.
Bruce
'13 R12R Montego Blue
'10 R12R's Black Biarritz Blue RIP '95 Mystic Red K75
'94 Black HD FXDS
Thanks for the nice note. Sorry to hear about your medical keeping you off the bike. Hope that won't be long before your back in the saddle.
I'm enjoying mine every day, lot's of riding and riders in Arizona. Temps have been a little on the chilly side lately but 70s coming back again soon and that will make for some great mileage.
I too own a 2013 Montego Blue Roadster. What a gorgeous bike!
I picked up my new bike on December 6 and went in for a full hip replacement on the following Tuesday. The dealer put 8 miles on it doing the shakedown cruise. And I put another 8 miles bringing it home. So it sits in my garage with 16 miles on the odometer.
Once I get cleared to ride and the weather clears up I plan to put plenty of miles on real quick. For now, I just go out to the garage and look longingly.
Bruce
Bruce, was this hip a result of your prior skirmish? Luckily for you, its only February and by the time you recover you will be "back in the saddle". That Montego Blue has been calling my name, however, I stay away and off the bikes, as I am a test ride dummy. Recoup quickly.
Sorry to call you out on it, but just trying to make a point.
