Anyone ever experienced this?
Left indicator OK, right indicator and cancel switch not OK.
Went for a ride today and found that I can only indicate left! I can't cancel the signal and the right turn switch doesn't work either. The bulbs are OK because the hazard switch is working and that's the only way I have to cancel a left turn signal at the moment. Turn the hazards on and off.
Hmmm, all the fuses are fine as well. Bugger...
Last edited by chris on Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Don't think so but I can't see how to get at the switches. Can only get the coverplate off the bottom and taking the top screw out doesn't free things up as the starter button is in the way and I don't know how to pop it off. There are a lot of wires in there!
It doesn't even work intermittently and the failure of both right turn and cancel switches makes me think that one common wire has broken but I've no idea where to look. Have taken off the tie wraps that clamp the looms to the headstock but it didn't help any so I think either both switches have failed at once ( unlikely) or there is a complete break in a wire. Odd thing is the bike was fine when put it to bed last night...
this is a known fault the wires around the head stock on some bike were isnstalled too tight. They break and you get faults like yours. I've been through this and it was a real pain becuase the fault kept moving untill it rached the kill switch and the bike would not tunr right without shuting down. get it fixed or you may be stranded like me.
leno wrote:this is a known fault the wires around the head stock on some bike were isnstalled too tight. They break and you get faults like yours. I've been through this and it was a real pain becuase the fault kept moving untill it rached the kill switch and the bike would not tunr right without shuting down. get it fixed or you may be stranded like me.
You mean it killed the engine! Jees.
I found that hidden screw thanks Phil, you can't really tell by looking at 'em but they look OK in the switch housing. I cut off the ties but didn't want to cut into the plastic cover over the wires. I suppose I could cut it near the old tight spot first to see if there's anything broken in there OR should I ask the dealer to look it over first in case they know about this fault and volunteer to fix it even though I'm just out of warranty?
Decided to leave it till I speak to the dealer tomorrow even though it could be as simple as finding the break and fixing it with a crimp connector. If they're willing to sort it I'll leave it to them. Time to have a beer and forget about it for now!
By the way, rode 300 miles over North Yorkshire to the coast today in beautiful sunshine and indicator problems aside, the bike was fantastic on the twisty smooth roads round Helmsley. My backside suffered a little though and in spots where we couldn't blast past the cars I eased my legs by resting them on the pots, comfy for a few miles at a stretch and not too hot either! No marks on my trouser legs anyway.
same problem happen to me 2 weeks ago. some time I can't cancel left signal and some time I can't turn on right signal. took to dealer and they did not do anything because it's intermittent problem and you know that the problem always fix it self when you take it in.
I was about to replace both switch but after I found out the price I decide leave it.
I was wondering if it's dirty button and clean both switch with WD-40 seems helps little... after I saw your post I think the problem is beyond my simple mind...
EddieRR wrote:same problem happen to me 2 weeks ago. some time I can't cancel left signal and some time I can't turn on right signal. took to dealer and they did not do anything because it's intermittent problem and you know that the problem always fix it self when you take it in.
I was about to replace both switch but after I found out the price I decide leave it.
I was wondering if it's dirty button and clean both switch with WD-40 seems helps little... after I saw your post I think the problem is beyond my simple mind...
mine is 02 with 16k on it.
Interesting. Did the dealer have any suggestions as to possible cause?
Chris..I had exactly the same problem as you and it turned out to be a broken brown wire where the wire harness comes out from under the tank on the right side..the thin cable ties are too tight and caused the damage...I fixed mine myself.....when the dealer looked at it they thought it was the switch..but the switch is ok..I'm glad I didn't have them fix it.
chris wrote:Decided to leave it till I speak to the dealer tomorrow even though it could be as simple as finding the break and fixing it with a crimp connector. If they're willing to sort it I'll leave it to them. Time to have a beer and forget about it for now!
By the way, rode 300 miles over North Yorkshire to the coast today in beautiful sunshine and indicator problems aside, the bike was fantastic on the twisty smooth roads round Helmsley. My backside suffered a little though and in spots where we couldn't blast past the cars I eased my legs by resting them on the pots, comfy for a few miles at a stretch and not too hot either! No marks on my trouser legs anyway.
How many miles you got on 'er now???
'05 R 1150 R Dark Ferro, with blacked out motor Member # 507
Thanks for the advice DJ. Did you strip the sheathing off or just open it up. Trying to work out how best to split it so I can put it back. My dealer thought it night be the switch but also admitted it could be a broken wire. I'll be having a look after breakfast. Brown wire then.
Dwayne, I've done 8k miles now.
DJ
Found the same as you. Brown wire broken. It must be the common between all three turn switches. Just soldered a short piece in place, taped it back up and everything works again. I took quite a few cable ties off both sides as well and replaced them with looser fitting ones. Left out the ones at the headstock completely. Advice to anyone whose bike has those damn ties at the headstock is to get rid now.
Happy again
I couldn't get any slack in the wire to join the broken ends, had to add a piece. My dealer also said they replaced the switch first. I'm glad it was so simple to fix and as you said, a sight cheaper than the dealer option!
Hey everybody. After reading this thread, and whether this particular problem would affect my '04 or not, it's become all too apparent how useful a resource the forum is and how the riders of our bike make up such a great and helpful community. I can only hope for such a knowledgable, cost-saving, and fast resolution to any head-scratching mechanical or electrical ills that may cross my own path down the road---hopefully Waaaaaaay far down the road! Kudo's to all. Now, just in case, heading out to the garage to check that stinkin' headstock tie and the rest...
KMACR
2004 Titan Silver R1150R Non-ABS
"Rubber side down is always a great idea..."
I can see how the bundle of wires could, through repeated bending, fatigue and break. Those 3 ties are very tight, esp the one by the hex bolt in the center of the pic. That one acts as a fulcrum, no give in it at all. It will be addressed.
John
'09 SchwarzeBlanche DuBois Well, don't do that-Hippocrates
Dr. Strangelove wrote:PS to my above post:
could this fault be related to the wiring harness fire thread ongoing in this section?
Very possibly.
I took all the ties off and fitted looser new ones. No need for them to be clamped up so tight. I don't have any on the left side at all now.
...I'm glad I was able to fix mine myself.
