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When I do carry, it is frequently a .22. I feel no less manly for it.

As Freud also said:

"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

boxermania wrote:Since I no longer have my ride, I feel safe in sharing that one of the resons that I removed the airbox is that it allowed me to carry my UZI, with the short barrel, in the newfound space.

I do have to say that I never had to use it......CycleRob, made me take my seat out in BBII to photograph the set-up......

Really?

I'm not sure you can compare a gay rights parade to the cinema...Gypsy.

frbank6 wrote:When I do carry, it is frequently a .22. I feel no less manly for it.

As Freud also said:

"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

A .22 can go through some bullet resistant Plexiglas, where the 44. was stopped. I like .22's.

My two pennies worth:

I've got no problem with guns or concealed weapon carriers. But I'm not gonna let some idiot ruin my day, by letting him provoke me into shooting him. Now that would be a hassle! I really ain't scared of somebody stealing my credit card. It's happened...not really that big of a deal. I ain't scared of him stealing my bike. He'll never get it out of neutral. I ain't scared of death or injury, otherwise I wouldn't ride a motorcycle.

My advice is different for women, as women face the added threat of sexual assault. This might bring about a need for firepower.


Yes, and I did see Deliverance...Burt Reynolds' spirit is my guardian angel.

iowabeakster.....+1

Amazing that our minds run in parallel.....if someone wants to steal my bike, they can have it and my car too....I figure they need it more than I do.

In any event they will be blessed with a bang, as the 24 hour delayed explosive device will be too far way for me to disable.....

{off topic comment coming}
Just wanted to chime in and say thanks for keeping this touchy subject, "civil."

Its the "right" thing to do.

Cheers!

Doug wrote:{off topic comment coming}
Just wanted to chime in and say thanks for keeping this touchy subject, "civil."

Its the "right" thing to do.

Cheers!

So the naked cowboy in New York gets to stay in the thread??

GypsyRR wrote:
So the naked cowboy in New York gets to stay in the thread??

Doesn't look like he's packin'.

Not that I looked that closely!

You can't pack in New York City.

jax BMW wrote: I recently received my concealed weapons permit which is observed by most states...

For informational purposes only, the Florida permit is good in all southeastern states except South Carolina.

Other states outside of the SE, do not have reciprocal agreements with FL. (32 states honor the FL permit).

http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/news/c ... carry.html

If you are caught with a concealed weapon in those non-reciprocating states, be prepared to go to jail.

jb

Also: (From the Florida Site.)

INTERSTATE TRAVEL WITH FIREARMS FALLS UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF FEDERAL LAWS. The relevant section from United States Code is quoted in its entirety below.

Sec 18 USC 926A. Interstate transportation of firearms.
Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver's compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

Interstate travel with a firearm is, therefore, permissible as long as the firearm is unloaded and in such a place that it is completely inaccessible (preferably the trunk of the vehicle).

Yes. And I do.

But only on those occasions where I'll be camping or staying in places other than home. Having been a LEO, and having the benefit of a lot of professional training, I'm comfortable carrying a weapon. Have a concealed permit, but no one EVER knows I'm armed. But most of the time, the weapon is locked in one of my side cases during my travels. Based on my experience, I know there are a lot of bad guys out there, and though it's unlikely I'll EVER run into one, I believe quite strongly in the motto, "Be Prepared".

There's my nickels worth of opinion (opinion .02; plus .01 for federal, state, and local taxes!)

And, yes, I think this is a valid question for someone to ask in regards to motorcycling. And for anyone in the forum to express an opinion whether or not they are citizens of our fine land.

Ciao! Bill J

GypsyRR wrote:

Doug wrote:{off topic comment coming}
Just wanted to chime in and say thanks for keeping this touchy subject, "civil."

Its the "right" thing to do.

Cheers!

So the naked cowboy in New York gets to stay in the thread??

The thought had occured to me, but now I see why he has all those muscles - to make up for a much smaller muscle somewhere else. That boy makes me feel good, so he stays!

Us bikers in the UK prefer to carry a nice flask of tea and some carrot cake ! Can't help thinking that this post should be on a different forum. I was thinking of coming to the USA for a bike tour but if the feeling is I need to carry a shooter then perhaps Europe is the place to be !!!

ROBOX,

In well over 50 years of U.S. living I have never seen a case where a regular, run of the mill citizen encountered a thug or other bad guy and was killed, maimed, disabled, or hurt. It happens far more on internet forums where stories and statistics compete with facts and figures.

The preponderance of violent personal crime is a. between family members and b. between criminals themselves. There are, in fact, documented cases of citizens and tourists being victimized by bad guys - near Miami airport seems to be a known danger zone for tourists, for example. The chances of it being you are so very small.

You are at more risk of falling in the shower and dying, falling down a flight of stairs and ending up disabled, having a heart attack induced by stress and lifestyle factors, and (apparently) dying of second hand smoke inhalation among over 30 other factors that are higher on the dead and gone list than impersonal, violent physical crime victim is.

So come to America, enjoy your visit, and try to guess who's packing!

ROBOX - besides, I understand the crime rate in the UK is climbing! Might be better off here!

And bring your carrot cake if you pass near me! We'll go riding!

Prior to Katrina, I was of the opinion that the government should do a sweep of the entire country, ridding us of handguns. Having worked a long long time at an inner city hospital, I saw too many instances of "unloaded" guns killing, or "accidental" shootings, as well as crimes of passion. Mother's Day was especially bloody.

I would argue with the maxim: Guns Don't Kill People Do. IN fact, guns do kill almost of their own volition.

However, there was this little storm we endured and aftereffects of which we still endure. I was back into the city just after the known anarchy that reigned and pre Hurricane Rita-that came 3 weeks after.

It was wierd and scary hearing strange noises outside of an unsecured home after nightfall, or seeing neer do wells scoping out houses.

For the first time in my life I felt a shooting type weapon was prudent and necessary. I bought a 12 guage shotgun. I felt safer. I didn't have to use it, EXCEPT one night I heard a suspicious noise outside my window and I co_cked it. That "chick-chick" sound is pretty intimidating and the suspicious noise stopped abruptly.

I changed my opinion about guns for protection. I would never argue with a law abiding citizen's desire to have one. Riding a motorcycle solo can be dangerous if one finds themselves stuck in less than desirable circumstances. A weapon on board does not imply a "shoot 'em up" mentality. But it does suggest foresight and prudent judgement in some cricumstances for some people. Cultures vary. IN France the usual most serious worry is a knife wielding gypsy type. And they are frequently drunk. It is a different threat than what we xperience in the US, fortunately for you, unfortunately for us.
We are not all gun happy "cowboys" who shoot first and ask questions later. But, like you, we can fear for our safety, just like our Asian and European and Aussie friends. We all desire to handle it in the most appropriate way.

Doug wrote:{off topic comment coming}
Just wanted to chime in and say thanks for keeping this touchy subject, "civil."

Its the "right" thing to do.

Cheers!

All good people here, just opinions.

I remember a nice Canadian boy (me!) camped out at the Ohio meet, and two tents over a couple of riders were comparing their legal "RTC" revolvers. Considering that they went as heavy on the 2 dollar beers as I did, I feel asleep that night hoping I wouldn't get accidentally shot as I slept, but feeling relieved that I didn't take my son with me.

I'm still troubled by the mindset, and I'd rather not associate with anyone who has the need to carry a gun to an event like a BMW bike rally.

A gun is a tool.