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Re: Mounting Tool Tube on RR
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:07 am
by Dr. Strangelove
thanks
and of course I am kidding you about ND. It's a great school that has only gotten better in the past decades. As you know it is one of those schools, in select company--like Duke--that people love to hate.
I distinctly remember my dad asking me " Are you sure you want to go to LSU and not even apply to other schools, like Notre Dame?" And I said I was sure...and looking back on it now it was because of the football games, a tradition in our family from our earliest memory.
I still haven't tried the tube out, to see just what can fit in there, but it should be a good bit. It will be at the Harriman Bash.
take care
John
Re: Mounting Tool Tube on RR
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:10 am
by tlwood28
Sorry if I was a bit "prickly." I know you were kidding, as was I (except for the comment about beer in your right case of course!). I apologize if I caused any offense.
The tube supposedly fits a tool roll, an MSR bottle, several pair of underwear, and a nice single malt, although you need to be flexible as to which one. My plan was to use them for tools, not that I have any, and not that I know how to use them if I did.
As to Harriman, that is right at 800 miles away. I don't see that happening for me, but would love to go and see what a bunch of curmudgeons I have been posting with all this time!
Best regards,
Tom W.
Re: Mounting Tool Tube on RR
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:11 am
by TicTac50
Originally I was looking to get two of those bottles but decided to get four.
After playing with them for a couple of hours, I realized that I can put all four of them right under my GIVI case. So, now I have almost a gallon of camping fuel and a nice shelf on each side of GIVI for both of my sleeping bags. I am still playing with that aluminum rack that I put together, but it does look very promising.
After completing the installation, I will post the pictures.
Re: Mounting Tool Tube on RR
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:57 pm
by Dr. Strangelove
just be aware that weight behind you throws off the geometry and handling of the bike a bit. The higher and the farther back the more the effect. On the other hand it probably beats getting stuck somewhere.
John
Re: Mounting Tool Tube on RR
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:08 pm
by TicTac50
Dr. Strangelove wrote:just be aware that weight behind you throws off the geometry and handling of the bike a bit. The higher and the farther back the more the effect. On the other hand it probably beats getting stuck somewhere.
John
Now I will have to gain at least 30 pounds in order to correct the geometry and balance of the bike.
But it is not so much weight, it is just bulky Mammy bags and fuel for my stove. Few more pounds and I am getting a Uni-GO
Here is the link:
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rS ... directlink
My total cost was about $25.00 at the Home Depot.
Good Luck.
Re: Mounting Tool Tube on RR
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 9:24 pm
by FloridaBeakster
I removed the canister and mounted the tool tube in its place. I had to make up some simple brackets with aluminum angle and I cut off the mounting tab from the tube. With the right side bag in place, it is locked up tight and cannot be accessed. Without the bag, it is not theft secure. I keep a 1L MSR bottle with unleaded gas in it, plus a siphon hose. I love having the piece of mind of 10 extra miles if I need it and I have fuel for my stove without taking up space in the luggage.
I can e-mail you pics if you like.
Re: Mounting Tool Tube on RR
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:11 am
by TicTac50
Well. I was able to mount 4 tubes and 2 sleeping bags with no problems.
http://picasaweb.google.com/10715674127 ... 1699310866
I had one tube with camping fuel and another one with can of coffee and another 2 tube with sugar and creamer.
Forgot to plug in the small hole in those tubes... so the sugar and creamer got a little wet in the rain.

Now if I can attach some LED lights to those tubes, I will be completely satisfied.
P.S. Made 2.5k with this setup (from Miami to Alabama and North Georgia) fully loaded but did not notice any changes in the handling of the bike.

Re: Mounting Tool Tube on RR
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:26 am
by Dr. Strangelove
Gee, TicTac, that is quite a rig, but nice clean work. Did you feel the wind anymore with it in place? What happened to your mileage? Looks like a bit of drag, you think?
I plugged the hole on mine with just a dab of contact cement and it worked fine.
I carry in mine a small dop type kit with some of my less often used tools, and a replacement alternator belt. It stayed totally dry through all the rain we had post Harriman. I am thinking about rigging another up to carry a tripod, but
1) my tripod may be too big for even a 4.5" tube
2) when Stella! and I went to Appalachia in the fall, I swore I would never again bring a tripod
still the lure of making good better is a siren song telling me to come see the rocks.
There is a saying in the operating room, and maybe elsewhere: "The enemy of good is better."
John
PS those graphics might come off with rubbing alcohol, and certainly with Goof Off
Re: Mounting Tool Tube on RR
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:53 pm
by TicTac50
Dr. Strangelove wrote:
still the lure of making good better is a siren song telling me to come see the rocks.
There is a saying in the operating room, and maybe elsewhere: "The enemy of good is better."
John
PS those graphics might come off with rubbing alcohol, and certainly with Goof Off
Well. The LED lights was just a joke. My riding buddy likes to light up his bike like a Christmas Tree, so that LEO's can see him better.
I think I am done with the RIG. It does what it was designed to do. I was more after the place for our sleeping bags than the place for those tubes.
I really did not see much changes in the gas mileage. I ride with an AeroFlow Touring screen and my GIVI top case was moved back about 6 inches.
When I travel 2-UP, my wife thinks that we are moving in. At every National Rally my bike is a major attraction when I am try to get it of the center stand. Aerodynamics of my bikes are long gone. I am 225 pounds and my wife was 110 on the wedding day, 30 years ago. Now days, even Jessy Ventura with his "CONSPIRACY THEORY" will have hard time to find her actual weight.
I never did see 50mpg on all of my bikes and I never will. So I don't even try.
If I keep the speed limit to the legal, I am getting about 41-44mpg. Riding behind my friend with his new Kawasaki Concours 14, I am down to less than 40mpg. I am taking doctors advise very seriously. No more changes or improvements for my bike, maybe a good diet for me.
Hope to see you all in Redmond. Just look for the OVERLOADED R1150. That would be ME.
Good Luck.
Re: Mounting Tool Tube on RR
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:25 pm
by Dr. Strangelove
Aerodynamics of my bikes are long gone. I am 225 pounds and my wife was 110 on the wedding day, 30 years ago. Now days, even Jessy Ventura with his "CONSPIRACY THEORY" will have hard time to find her actual weight.

I never did see 50mpg on all of my bikes and I never will. So I don't even try.
That's really funny.
I see very close to 50--sometimes higher-- routinely on my travels, but not in town
JOhn
Re: Mounting Tool Tube on RR
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:56 pm
by TicTac50
Dr. Strangelove wrote:
I see very close to 50--sometimes higher-- routinely on my travels, but not in town
JOhn
Is it save to assume that the "LOW FUEL" indicator light on your bike goes ON at about 200 miles
I modified the fuel tank according to CycleRob's instructions, but I never made it over 220 miles without leaning the bike, just to make it to the gas station.
On my 2002 R1150 the "LOW FUEL" light always went ON at about 165-167 miles. On my 2004 with 2 spark plugs per cylinder, I still get the same mileage as I was getting on 2002. What makes your gas mileage much higher than mine? Riding style, aerodynamics of the bike, like wind screen and top case, weight maybe, altitude, attitude, Costco gas
I don't wish to turn "Mounting Tool Tube" topic into a MPG, but what effects such a big difference in MPG?
I am preparing my trip to Redmond and Canada totaling 8000 miles.
If I can get 50MPG instead of 40MPG, that will save me bout 130 bucks just on this trip.
I know, I know that I can leave my better half home and save much more $$$, but that is not an option.

Re: Mounting Tool Tube on RR
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:48 am
by Dr. Strangelove
My performance went way up when I started doing my own valves and throttle bodies, but mileage was typically 41-44, 45 hwy. I think the first time I did my valves and TBs I caught air in 2nd, whoa, I remember thinking.
I took off my muffler and my mileage went up--can't explain that, but there is a thread about it somewhere on this board--to 47,48 to low 50s on the hwy, fast but not hooligan.
Real Hooligan on twisties I get 38-43ish now. I did this about 35k miles ago???
In town city riding stop and go third gear tops, I get mid 30s I spose. And the low fuel light will come on on the sidestand as low as 120, but will go out when riding
Use Plus gas and occasional SeaFoam
My low fuel light in commuting city w some steady 65 comes on to stay around 145-154 ish
On long trips, steady hwy, 70+ish Comes on between 170 and 190. Highest I've seen is 191-193. And that is fully loaded minus MLW ("somebody needs to stay alive" is her argument, invalid so far).
Have never run out of gas.
On a recent hooligan type ride in NC it came on at 172, iirc, and the tank took 3.76 iirc, at that moment. It lit when I was pulling into the gas station so I don't know if it would have extinguished with a little more riding.
I have the tall screen, also known as the 380 I think--bmw screen. I weigh about 165 and run the pressures in my tires 38 front and 40,41 rear.
From reading the board over the past few years is seems there is some variabilty on these numbers and your numbers fall in the normal reported range, as do mine.
All of the above are using the bike's odometer, which is optimistic a bit...3% or so???
On my long trips I do carry about a liter of gas, just in case. And some oil too.