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Paul wrote:Does raising the handlebar and pulling it back an inch or so helps the butt at all with the new posture?

I started sitting as far back as I could in the seat because the boys were complaining. Then they were happy, but my back started hurting. The touratech riser took care of my posture problems in short order.

Paul wrote:Hi every one.
I took the bike out during the weekend and the seat is absolutely the first on the mods list.
I feel pretty much like everyone else, 30" inseam, hurts right behind the jewels and inside the tights.
Just a question.
Does raising the handlebar and pulling it back an inch or so helps the butt at all with the new posture?

My experience was no - but YMMV. I found the more upright position added weight to the back and butt - both became bothersome... but it probably depends on your shape. Luckily there are inexpensive barbacks, and if they don't work for you - someone is always looking for some.

dumfounded wrote:

Paul wrote:Does raising the handlebar and pulling it back an inch or so helps the butt at all with the new posture?

I started sitting as far back as I could in the seat because the boys were complaining. Then they were happy, but my back started hurting. The touratech riser took care of my posture problems in short order.

So, you kept the original seat?

Paul wrote:So, you kept the original seat?

So far, but anything over 4 hours kills me. Posture is fine, but the butt-burn is unbearable. The OEM comfort seat will be ordered as soon as I get back from my jaunt on the west coast. I had the same problem with the R12RT- replacement with a Corbin made it much more comfortable.

Look at my post about the Comfort Saddle being the right one for the R1200R. I too had a R1200RT with the low seat and had the same issues of non compatibility with my backside. I used an Alaska Leather sheepskin and it made the RT seat somewhat more tolerable. I was ready to buy a custom seat for it, but decided to buy the R1200R instead. I put the Alaska Leather sheepskin on the R1200R seat and it did not help.

I have about 100 miles on the Comfort Saddle and cannot believe how much more comfortable it is compared to the stock seat. You will not regret the purchase.

Bill

FWIIW, I bought a Corbin for my HD XR1200 (you give them your weight and inseam if i remember) and they ship it out fairly quickly. Understand the XR is not a BMW but the Corbin made longer trips possible.

However the seat did not fit right. Their commincations was ok and after some suggested tweaks, the seat fits. But in the meantime I found out that Corbin DOES NOT TAKE RETURNS!

So caveat emptor!

My RT feels great but that is compared to my XR (lol) I agree the boys got a bit of a shock and the sliding forward took getting used to but I think I would leave Corbin off my list for a fix.

On another note, Crocker made a motorcycle back 70- 80 years ago and they had a seat with a cut out for the boys. Don't understand why that concept would not work today?

Well back out checking everything for my ride tomorrow.

ride safe ya'll

paul

2009 HD XR 1200
2004 R 1150 RT
And my partners 2005 HD Deuce that I ride to break up the monotony.

dbluefish wrote:On another note, Crocker made a motorcycle back 70- 80 years ago and they had a seat with a cut out for the boys. Don't understand why that concept would not work today?

It still works today - look for a "FreedomAir" motorcycle air cushion. It's a very specific part of their design.. and if you have bad butt-burn but not the $$$ yet for a really custom seat (or BMW Comfort seat) - the FreedomAir might do the trick for you. It works for me, even on the stock seat (and I do use it once in a while on my Sargent, but it's not as urgently needed..)

http://www.longeride.com/

http://www.rehabmart.com/product/freedo ... 17184.html

Picked up my Low Comfort Seat from my dealer today. Only got a few miles on it so far, but it feels quite nice. Can't wait until I get some time for a ride.

Thank you everyone for feed back on this.

Scott

Just ordered the Comfort "low" seat from my dealer in UK. Price £282 (about $420). Not cheap but if it means I reduce/get rid of that awful discomfort of the stock seat , it will be money well spent.

Rocket wrote:Just ordered the Comfort "low" seat from my dealer in UK. Price £282 (about $420). Not cheap but if it means I reduce/get rid of that awful discomfort of the stock seat , it will be money well spent.

I should have got mine in the UK! They are $554 here. I road mine 150 miles Sunday and was a huge improvement.

Scott

dumfounded wrote:

Paul wrote:Does raising the handlebar and pulling it back an inch or so helps the butt at all with the new posture?

I started sitting as far back as I could in the seat because the boys were complaining. Then they were happy, but my back started hurting. The touratech riser took care of my posture problems in short order.

I installed the MT bar backs, riding position helps the arms a lot as was able to go for a longer ride.
Big mistake.
The stock seat is unbearable after a while, the new posture doesn't help the butt.
Whoever designed that seat should be shot in the back twice a week for a year.

The comfort seat seems the way to go.

Woo hoo just adding to this seat thread. Well after MUCH bs I'm think I'm close to a decent seat position. I felt the need to say something about arm/wrist pressure based on some of the bar back comments. Not to rehash my previous posts but the tall comfort saddle made be feel like I was on a GS in tallness and put some pressure on my arms and wrists that wasn't there before. I then exchanged it for the low comfort seat and the arm and wrist position is almost perfect. BUT it was a LITTLE cramped feeling although it was so much better than the stock standard saddle I could live with it. Then I ran across wunderlich's footpeg lowering set. The approx difference between the tall and low comfort saddles it like 1.2". The footpeg set lowers and pegs by 3/4". I took a gamble and got the set and now the seat position seems almost perfect. Again I'm 5'11" with 31ish inseam. FWIW. Is this thread dead yet lol?

Bought the BMW comfort seat (low) and tested it over 1250 miles over 3 days.
Result - Much better than stock seat but still get bum ache after about 4 hours.

Arguably , that would be the case in most seats after this length of time. Soreness got worse when riding slow (eg in built up area) and improved when riding faster (open road). Presume there is some weight transfer which eases the pressure in the affected area of bum and inner thigh.
When soreness got really bad, fitted the Airhawk and comfort was restored for a few hours more (and only needed to use it on day 3) .

I think I know what my birthday present is gonna be..

Who has the best price on them - and what's the PN for the low version (I know.. search!)..

I noticed this site for the high comfort seat, but I've never dealt with the company.

http://www.bmwriderparts.com/products/B ... 21958.html

Don,

Here are the part numbers for the two Comfort Saddles:

52537721958 COMFORT SADDLE, HIGH - 830MM $554.00
52537721957 COMFORT BENCH SEAT, LOW - 800MM $554.00

There is no "ultra low" Comfort Saddle. The low Comfort Saddle is the same height as the stock bench seat (800 mm = 31.5 ")

Bill

I ordered the low comfort saddle. It went on perfectly and looks much better than the original. My original never seemed to go on properly and a few times it locked on with the seat crooked and then the catch wouldn't activate so I could remove it and reposition it. I hope the newer seatpan doesn't have that problem.

I sat on it, put my feet on the pegs and my legs felt more cramped than with the original, regular height seat. It was also a bit easier to stand flat footed. I don't need to stand flat footed and I didn't want to bend my knees more, so I took it back and ordered a high comfort saddle.

I aspire to be 5'9" and my inseam is about 31.5". My advise if you are ordering a comfort saddle is that you consider your current OEM regular height seat. If you want to sit a a little lower, order the low comfort saddle. If you definitely don't want to sit lower, the low comfort saddle is probably not the best choice. Although the measurements are the same, I think the low comfort seat is 800mm because of additional padding and when compressed it is actually lower.

I hope that in a week I will say "If you want to sit a LITTLE higher, order the High Comfort Saddle." I hope I won't instead be saying "Helloooo down there."

On thing I noticed about the low seat is that the padding seems a little thin in the middle of the dished out area. That's an uninformed judgement because my riding experience on the seat consists of sitting on the bike, on the center stand, in the garage for less than a minute going "vrrrrooooomm". I'm am hoping that the high seat has more padding there.

If you happen to be in Atlanta and looking for a low comfort saddle, want to sit on one or just want to see one, give Blue Moon a call ASAP because I just returned it. (They have an R1200R on the floor if you want to try it out on the bike. It's that ugly blue color but you can always close your eyes and imagine that you are sitting on an alpineweiss model with pinstripes.) If you buy that seat, let me know so I can harangue them to return the restocking fee they charged me.

Total price on my comfort seat (so far):
The seat $554.00
Rush shipping from BMW in NJ -- $55.40
Sales tax -- $38.78
Restocking fee -- $83.10
Replacement for the rear turn signal lens I broke when I strapped the box with the new seat in it to my bike to return it -- $13.00 (But hey for a little while there I had a four seat motorcycle.)
Total ----- $774.28

Riding my bike for hours on end without my posterior screaming ----- Priceless.

Another $150 and it will be my most expensive farkle, surpassing the OEM front wheel I purchased to replace the three week old one I dented.

Thanks much everyone. I have a friend at a dealership who is going to try to get me a "price".. so, will see how that goes. If this works out as everyone says it does - I'll soon have either a stock low-seat, or a Sargent modified low-seat for sale. I'll let you guys/gals know first before it goes to Flea-Bay..

Thanks all! (700 miles over the weekend had my butt going woof--woof! Ouch--Ouch!)

deilenberger wrote:I have a friend at a dealership who is going to try to get me a "price".. so, will see how that goes. If this works out as everyone says it does - I'll soon have either a stock low-seat, or a Sargent modified low-seat for sale. I'll let you guys/gals know first . . .)

My next upgrade will be a standard or tall comfort seat. If anybody in the D.C. metropolitan area has a tall seat I can try out, lunch is on me. I'm a standard/tall tweener at 6-1, 33-inch inseam.

Chicago BMW sells the comfort saddle for $443 (includes discount but not shipping). Plan on a month-long delivery.

Can someone post a PICTURE of the low comfort seat .. please? A comparison shot to a standard low seat would be great, too

The links all go to line drawings and it's impossible to tell from these how the seat actually is - and is particular how the pillion section is. I'd be mainly getting this for a better pillion seat, and there's no point if it's the same shape as the stanard low seat (which is domed in the pillion section). I get by with the standard low and an airhawk ... sore after a few hours, but bearable fro a day's riding. more comfort would be nice but it's not essential. A functional pillion section would be essential if I'm to persuade Ms Cute to hop aboard.

THANKS ....