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Geez, you yanks are on your own planet sometimes

Nay, different hemisphere, we share the same planet.

But our hemisphere has some fauna, like the good Dr. has humourously (spelled just for you!) pointed out, that think we are edible. I took a shotgun to Alaska with me to turn the table, so to speak. While bear repellant spray is supposed to work, you'd have to be too close to use it.

We spent the first night in a Canadian Rockies campground called Marble Canyon which was a beautiful place with an honor system payment plan. All very civilized appearing until I pulled a pamphlet from the pay box with the campground map that had on it's backflap instructions titled," WHAT TO DO WHEN YOU SEE A BEAR!" Not "IF", mind you. I decided that WHEN I see a bear, I will be armed!

And yes, we did see bear (several) but far enough off so as not to be a concern. They didn't bother me, and I didn't bother them.
We both adhered to the Golden Rule.

Dr. Stangelove - that is a great picture!

And I always thought the big problem with animals in Texas was those "armed dillos"!

But the giant squirrel picture straightened me right out!

BJ

Quote "A concealed pistol means you're a very, very serious criminal, and almost certainly a sociopath or psychpath as well."

No, not really. It does mean that I'm a retired law enforcement officer who has had really excellent training and kept up with regular range practice. And a good Boy Scout too! Be Prepared.

But do admit to being a cyclepathic fool!

Ciao! BJ

(That quote is from an Australian, explaining how handgun carriers are regarded -- in Australia. Carrying a concealed handgun, in Australia, is a serious crime.)

Here in New York City, possesing a concealed handgun without a (very rare) permit is also a serious crime. Police here are very hard on gun-carriers. I was once robbed (at gunpoint) by a couple of...children. When I reported it to the police, they were all over the case, because of the gun involved. They don't want guns on the street, and for them it's personal.

Also, for them, it's much easier to get a conviction on a gun possesion charge. If a policeman finds a gun, it's a felony, and no need for ill-assorted witnesses to reconstruct a crime. You got a gun, you got da perp's fingerprints on it, you got a conviction, and a mandated sentence, case closed.

Oops. Guess I should have read the whole string. Aussie's certainly have different rules, and I say good on 'em.

I'm aware of NYC rules and given the environment those law officers deal with I can certainly understand their much stricter concealed carry laws.

But I'm also glad I live in the "wild west"!

Thanks for clearing this up for me...the old...the confused!

Book 'em, Dano!

Ciao, BJ

Preferred tools with triggers: for moto-travel within dangerous environments.

Robust construction, carefully engineered, widely adopted by knowledgable professionals.

We all sincerely hope such tools remain unnecessary, but recognize that unexpected problems can & do occur.

BJ,

Is that the .40 plugger, or the smaller 9mm plugger ? I once saw that particular unit in 10mm and judged that it might be harmful to it's user.

Airman,

That's the 9mm, and I'm sure that any size of them could be harmful to an owner if proper plugger control techniques and methods aren't utilized. I believe Plugger Safety Classes are available in your area, just check with the national long plugger association!

BJ

I prefer the model 21. Though a bit larger frame to say the least. With the mag extenders, capacity is 14 + 1. 45 ACP is a great caliber.

Riding from NY to San Diego, Ca this summer via Colorado, Utah and Arizona. I appreciate all opinions presented here. I also am on the "fence' concerning carrying a handgun. I will be traveling alone and plan on camping some of the time. Probally will but I admit to feeling alittle apprehensive. It,s a right I take seriously and comes with a hugh dose of resposibillity. Probally won't need it (gun) but ????


"In their lifetimes, most people will never need a gun. Those that do will need it very badly"
Gen. George A. Custer

jacksgp wrote:Riding from NY to San Diego, Ca this summer via Colorado, Utah and Arizona. I appreciate all opinions presented here. I also am on the "fence' concerning carrying a handgun. I will be traveling alone and plan on camping some of the time. Probally will but I admit to feeling alittle apprehensive. It,s a right I take seriously and comes with a hugh dose of resposibillity. Probally won't need it (gun) but ????


"In their lifetimes, most people will never need a gun. Those that do will need it very badly"
Gen. George A. Custer

I am sure you know this already, but be careful and check the laws of all states you will ride through, as they will vary widely.

Thanks Chris, this is not a easy decision and only made more difficult for the reasons you mention. I think "out of sight" is the way to go but I sure wish the same the laws were shared by each state. Thanks Again!!!