ABS+clutch bleed, fuel filter; How Much $?

frbank6 · Post by **frbank6** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:05 pm

What should I expect to pay to get my clutch and ABS brakes bled and my fuel filter replaced? Anyone have this done recently?

Post by **taosports** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:18 pm

Just the ABS brake bleed came to $230. for me - most of that was the labor charge. That's San Francisco area labor rates from two years ago. I do my own brake bleeds now.

Since they need to take the tank off to bleed the master ABS brake unit, getting to the fuel filter to replace it shouldn't take more than 15 - 20 minutes max. Same with the clutch bleed - easy access, less than a 15 minute job.

Post by **touchton** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:42 pm

frbank6 wrote:What should I expect to pay to get my clutch and ABS brakes bled and my fuel filter replaced? Anyone have this done recently?

If you're interested in learning how to do it yourself, let me know. I'm in Goodlettsville and I plan to do the clutch and ABS service on my bike in the next few weeks. As far as having the dealer do it, last time I had it done at Bloodworth's it was $224.83.

Thad

frbank6 · Post by **frbank6** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:09 am

Thad,

Thanks for the offer. I've been accumulating the tools to do it myself, but I think since I skipped the 18k service I'll have Bloodworth do it first. I'm off Center Point Rd; how far away are you?

What color is your bike? I've seen someone on a red R occasionally on Gallatin Rd.

Post by **touchton** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:54 am

I'm real close; off Conference Drive. My bike is red, so that may be me that you've seen. We need to get together and ride, or at least talk about bikes if it's too cold or wet to ride.

I have all the tools we would need for the clutch and brake service.. I plan on installing Speed Bleeders on the calipers and I just got those last week. You are welcome to come help or watch when I do mine. Next time you won't be beholden to Bloodworth's for the service.

Thad

Post by **boxermania** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:56 am

frbank6

Not to take you away from your master plan, but I should mention that Thad is not only a good guy, but also a good rider and takes excellent care of his bike.

On a couple of ocassions I have taken the liberty to steer other posters in the area with bike issues to seek his assistance as I know he would gladly help them and would enjoy meeting them as well.

frbank6 · Post by **frbank6** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:03 pm

Thad,

What types of SpeedBleeder did you need? Are you just fitting them at the calipers or are you also putting them on the ABS box?

Post by **touchton** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:59 pm

frbank6 wrote:Thad,

What types of SpeedBleeder did you need? Are you just fitting them at the calipers or are you also putting them on the ABS box?

At this point I was just going to install them on the calipers. It appears to me that the stock bleeders would be easy enough to use at the ABS box. And, I don't think they have anything long enough for a couple of them.

Thad

Post by **taosports** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:25 pm

touchton wrote: And, I don't think they have anything long enough for a couple of them.

They didn't but shorter ones work OK w/o any problems. I'm curious to know if they sent you the right sizes Thad. Their recommended size chart was wrong for my bike (04 R). Had to send one back.

They do make bleeding the brakes a much quicker process! Well worth the $ in MHO.

Post by **touchton** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:52 pm

taosports wrote:I'm curious to know if they sent you the right sizes Thad. Their recommended size chart was wrong for my bike (04 R). Had to send one back.

I'm a bit curious about that myself. I found some conflicting information as to which size is needed. My bike is an 02 R. Do you know what sizes were correct for yours? I also ordered one for the clutch.

Post by **taosports** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:48 am

I can't find my parts list and unfortunately the speedbleeders themselves are not marked but the incorrect ones were on the front caliper. The ones they sent me were way too big (in diameter). If I can find the list I used, I'll send you a pm.

The SpeedBleeder website is very confusing. They list "R models after 1996" with one set of recommendations and yet if you scroll down, they list your specific bike "R1150R 2002-03" with another recommended front caliper bleeder. very confusing.

Post by **Buckster** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:17 am

Let us know when you find out. I'm interested in having them installed too. I haven't done a bleed yet but I'm gonna learn!!

Post by **AndyRR** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:59 am

I bought mine from KZ10cubed on Ebay. He asked if I had the Evo brakes (I think- it was a while ago). Told him all I knew is that the calipers say BMW and not Brembo. He knew from that description and sent the correct ones. FWIW, he seemed to know what he's doing and has a 100% feedback rating.

Post by **touchton** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:34 am

AndyRR wrote:I bought mine from KZ10cubed on Ebay.

After reading your message I looked him up on eBay. He knew the which Speed Bleeders were needed for the calipers, clutch, and ABS module. I order the additional ones I needed from him.

Here are the part numbers of the Speed Bleeders I'm going to use:

Clutch (1) SB1010S
Front calipers (2) SB8125L
Rear caliper (1) SB6100
ABS #1 & #2 (4) SB7100S
ABS #3 (2) SB7100

Post by **iowabeakster** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:36 pm

I am not trying to cause disagreement here, but I have to ask.

Why put speed bleeders on the calipers?

With the servo pump, just one application of the brake lever (or foot pedal for the rear) is all it takes. The entire quantity of fluid is flushed in a few seconds.

I can see using speed bleeders on the clutch and control unit (for the control circuits), but seems like a waste of money/time for the wheel circuits.

Post by **CycleRob** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:35 pm

The speed bleeders have an internal check valve in the form of a small steel ball and seating spring. They only allow the fluid to go one way - - - so no fluid or air can go back in during the bleed procedure.

http://www.speedbleeder.com/

The orange sealing material you see on the threads seals in the fluid when the bleeder is loosened, and it has to be renewed after a few uses with teflon tape or gasket sealer, as it wears away and leaks too much DOT4 out the thread contact interface. The leakage problem and the mess it made soured me on using or advocating them. They leak thru the threads more than a standard bleeder because the check ball needs a low fluid pressure brake lever squeeze to unseat the ball. Speed bleeders are a boon for things like the clutch bleed, where the bleeder is too far away from the lever, allowing the process to happen really fast. They're great in that respect but they're no silver bullet. If you are patient and an experienced bleeder, doing it manually with the stock bleeder is OK and cheaper. Also, small gunky particles can cause the check ball and bleeder to malfunction.

After doing it both ways many times and having a squeeze bottle with bleeder hose attached working quite well, I went back to my old way, that is flawlessly sanitary. The squeeze bottle applies a vacuum to the stock bleeder (squeeze bottle then connect hose) and the threads and hose connection point never leak the paint damaging fluid. When I disconnect the hose it sucks in all stray drips.

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Post by **Buckster** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:25 am

Thanks for the info Thad and Rob.

Thad, I met you briefly at the Honda Hoot last summer in line at the demo rides. I never knew your screen name till now. It was nice meeting you and thanks for the info!

Larry Buck

Post by **touchton** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:15 pm

Buckster wrote:Thad, I met you briefly at the Honda Hoot last summer in line at the demo rides.

Hey! I remember that. Are you going back this year? I probably will unless work gets in the way.

To get back on topic; I'm planning to do the clutch and brake bleeding on my bike this weekend. If anyone is in the Nashville area and wants to watch send me a PM. I'll let you know where and when.

reidmct · Post by **reidmct** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:38 pm

CycleRob wrote:The leakage problem and the mess it made soured me on using or advocating them.

That was my experience years ago. I see Speedbleeders as a great concept that doesn't work in practice. Too bad.

frbank6 · Post by **frbank6** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:48 pm

Thad,
PM sent

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