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With weather in the low 80s in the north east USA this weekend I did about 800 miles in two days and honestly haven't toured much at all this summer. By the end of yesterday my hand was really getting sore and will invest in a throttle control of some sort. After a quick googling I came across "never protection gloves" here at
http://www.qwinerveprotector.com/QwiSoln.html and wondering if anyone had any experience with them.

Also are there any hand exercises that can be done to minimize this pain that comes with twisting a throttle for 8 hours a day?
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LeonardoNYC wrote:With weather in the low 80s in the north east USA this weekend I did about 800 miles in two days and honestly haven't toured much at all this summer. By the end of yesterday my hand was really getting sore and will invest in a throttle control of some sort. After a quick googling I came across "never protection gloves" here at
http://www.qwinerveprotector.com/QwiSoln.html and wondering if anyone had any experience with them.

Also are there any hand exercises that can be done to minimize this pain that comes with twisting a throttle for 8 hours a day?
I got suckered into these at the NY Moto-Show. They are worthless and not very good quality gloves. I think I threw them out when cleaning the garage a few weeks ago, or I'd give them to you.

A few suggestions:

1 - GripPuppies from Beemerboneyard (hi Mike!).. they increase the size of the grip, and provide some cushion to absorb any vibrations. Cost about $3.00 or so. I replace them about once a year (the foam seems to harden up a bit with time and sun exposure.)

2 - Throttle "assist" of some sort so the throttle stays where you twist it (open-closed-in between..) I use an O ring behind the right bar end. Works fine and isn't effected a lot when the heated grips are turned on (all the throttle "locks" I've tried were badly effected - they locked ON when heat was turned on.) Besides taking the effort out of modulating the throttle or holding it at a constant position, it allows you to shake out the numb throttle hand without lurching around due to the engine speed dropping.

3 - Practice holding the tank with your knees (in my case it's more the sidepanel on the right side, tank left side - ever notice the tank is asymetric?) and take the weight off your hands. Practice holding the grips as if you're holding a raw egg in each one, ie - very gently.

4 - Make sure nothing is tight around your wrist. Mine is always worse in the cold weather when I start to layer up, until I remember to make sure of this. Good reason for gauntlet gloves in cold weather. They allow you to keep the sleeve end loose and still keep cold air from going up your arm. And the cold air will make it worse.

That works for me. Pretty much. Still get numb once in a while until I remember to follow my own suggestions.. :)

Good luck - it is a pain in the hand!
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Sometimes the issue is with the angle of the handlebars. I found relief from much of the palm pain when I rotated the bars on my GS. So far, my "R" hasn't been as painful.
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My deal is Throttlemeister. I have friends who say it's suicidal to use a throttle lock. I don't really lock it; I have just enough tension on it to hold throttle position and since I use them a lot ( have it on two bikes ) it's automatic for me to roll it off as traffic dictates. Much less strain on the hand.

Just got back from 250 miles up from San Diego to Ojai for a Rocky Mayer seat, and back today....used the Throttlemeister a bunch. The bike was my ....wait for it....2011 Victory King Pin 8 Ball; not the r1200r what has a Rick Mayer used seat (his brother)...anyway I'm going to have to adjust the Throttlemeister on the BMW as it's a little loose compared to the Victory.

Throttlemeister is good gear; nicely machined. I don't know how you would roll an "O" ring off and get rid of the friction. YMMV
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The Quick gloves are OK but a bit thick. I suffered from the same problem, up to the point where I could not even hold a pen. My solutions were multiple:

- as indicated above, grip puppies are great. They dampen vibrations and increase diameter, thereby relieving pressure on your hands' nerves. Great solution for $10.

- Absolutely no striction pressure of your wrist, for instance with tight fitting gloves: any pressure on your wrist will instantly trigger a carpal tunnel syndrome.

- Do not support part of your body weight on the handlebars, since it increases the pressure on your wrist and then again can trigger carpal tunnel syndrome.

So far, I have been able to ride hours without any hand problem with these techniques, but then again, but tail bone gives up before my hands get tired...Good luck.
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odel wrote:The Quick gloves are OK but a bit thick. I suffered from the same problem, up to the point where I could not even hold a pen. My solutions were multiple:

- as indicated above, grip puppies are great. They dampen vibrations and increase diameter, thereby relieving pressure on your hands' nerves. Great solution for $10.

- Absolutely no striction pressure of your wrist, for instance with tight fitting gloves: any pressure on your wrist will instantly trigger a carpal tunnel syndrome.

- Do not support part of your body weight on the handlebars, since it increases the pressure on your wrist and then again can trigger carpal tunnel syndrome.

So far, I have been able to ride hours without any hand problem with these techniques, but then again, but tail bone gives up before my hands get tired...Good luck.
I think that was 1-4 above.. except you switched 3 and 4 around.. :) Oh... wait, you left out the throttle assist.. :(

Great minds (and sore wrists) must think alike.
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SDMAX wrote:My deal is Throttlemeister. I have friends who say it's suicidal to use a throttle lock. I don't really lock it; I have just enough tension on it to hold throttle position and since I use them a lot ( have it on two bikes ) it's automatic for me to roll it off as traffic dictates. Much less strain on the hand.
Just curious - if you have it set for drag, and you turn the heated grips on, what happens? Every one I've used locked up solid since the grip core expands and gets longer, pushing on the throttle lock.
Throttlemeister is good gear; nicely machined. I don't know how you would roll an "O" ring off and get rid of the friction. YMMV
Actually - from people who DO roll an O ring off - it's very simple, just slide your hand over it and roll it onto the bar-end. If you don't have GS handguards installed, you'll need something to stop it from rolling all the way off. I know it's not as bling as the various throttle locks, but the money you save could pay for a nice weekend trip, so..

I don't use an O ring that way. Mine is smaller then the grip diameter and fits BETWEEN the grip and the bar-end. It is always "on" providing just enough drag so the throttle VERY slowly closes on it's own when I release it. The heated grips don't seem to effect it much, I suspect because it's rubber and has some give to it.
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deilenberger wrote:
SDMAX wrote:My deal is Throttlemeister. I have friends who say it's suicidal to use a throttle lock. I don't really lock it; I have just enough tension on it to hold throttle position and since I use them a lot ( have it on two bikes ) it's automatic for me to roll it off as traffic dictates. Much less strain on the hand.
Just curious - if you have it set for drag, and you turn the heated grips on, what happens? Every one I've used locked up solid since the grip core expands and gets longer, pushing on the throttle lock.
I recently put the Kaoko throttle lock on my bike and have ridden probably 1500 miles with it. It's never locked up on me - I like it quite a bit. I understand the Throttlemeister is more sensitive - they recommend doing the initial setup with the heated grips fully warmed up because of this.
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Never thought about the heated grip with Throttlemeister issue. On this bike, the R12, the dealer installed and I think they are too loose. The one on the R12 uses shims and I"ll have to check it heated bf I get all into it and try to make it tighter.

I need new grip puppy deals too.
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SF_Hooligan wrote:
deilenberger wrote:
SDMAX wrote:My deal is Throttlemeister. I have friends who say it's suicidal to use a throttle lock. I don't really lock it; I have just enough tension on it to hold throttle position and since I use them a lot ( have it on two bikes ) it's automatic for me to roll it off as traffic dictates. Much less strain on the hand.
Just curious - if you have it set for drag, and you turn the heated grips on, what happens? Every one I've used locked up solid since the grip core expands and gets longer, pushing on the throttle lock.
I recently put the Kaoko throttle lock on my bike and have ridden probably 1500 miles with it. It's never locked up on me - I like it quite a bit. I understand the Throttlemeister is more sensitive - they recommend doing the initial setup with the heated grips fully warmed up because of this.
I tried the Kaoko on my R12R - and had the same issue.. tightens up when the heated grips were on. Ended up selling it to someone of this forum..
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I got the Excel Cycle Werkes O-ring grip set ($20), which makes an excellent setup with my Throttlemeister bar-ends. Sure they tighten up when the grips heat up, but you just back 'em off a bit, no problem at all. No "claw-hand" even with 12-hour days. Ausgeseichnet!
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