Remove System case locks with no keys?

[goomicoo]

I got a pair of system cases today for a song because there are no keys. The tabs are of course broken so I can open, close, and mount them to the bike but would like to be able to lock them as well.
I know the procedure to match the tumblers with my key but it requires you to first unlock the case to depress the pin for removal of the tumbler assembly.
Is there anyway to accomplish this without the key? Maybe this is why I got such a good deal.

[jas]

A lock-smith should be able to pull the cores for next to nothing. You may even want to take it to a BMW dealer with a master key. I had a similiar problem, but after a six pack of beer and lots of trying, they came out. If I had to do it again, a lock-smith would be used.

[Hawkman]

+1

Go to a locksmith... They can unlock it for you and build you a key for the lock. My used bags come locked open and for the guys downtown fixed me up for 30 bucks. plus I have keys that are separate from the ignition which is actually kinda nice to have.

[twindave]

Its been awhile, but if I remember correctly, there is a small pin hole near the lock. Stick a paper clip in the hole and remove the lock cylinder. I think that will get the cases open.

I'm sure there is someone here that may be able to elaborate.

hope that helps

[goomicoo]

The cases are open but the lock is in the closed position
The cylinder needs to be in the unlocked position to release the hounds!
Oh well, I always wanted to learn how to pick a lock.

[sweatmark]

Repeat: use a locksmith. Cost me $25 for locksmith services to create key for System case which was locked with no preexisting key.

The tumbler assembly must be in unlocked position, with key inserted, in order to remove lock core using that access hole.

If you're considering replacement of the orange locking tab(s), and your cases can be opened right now, then you might take the plunge and buy the BMW case repair kit. Not inexpensive, but you can rebuild the case locking/attachment system. The process involves drilling out rivets for removal of the case mechanicals after lock cores have been removed, but you might be able to forego cost of locksmith if your locking tabs have broken off completely.

[goomicoo]

Yes, both tabs are toast. I can just use them the way they are but I would like to be able to lock them on the bike.
Like my bike sits around outside where someone can mess with it! NOT

[jas]

If the tabs are broken, the cases cannot be locked on the bike. The tab locks the primary handle (which is responsible for openning the lids) , which in turn locks the secondary handle which controls the tab that connects to the rails.

[Airman]

If the tabs are broken, the cases cannot be locked on the bike. The tab locks the primary handle (which is responsible for openning the lids) , which in turn locks the secondary handle which controls the tab that connects to the rails.

Not exactly true, jas. The bags can be installed on the rails, you just cannot lock the handles. With the handles free you should be able to release the lock. Could be you would have to put a key in it pull it out though.

[goomicoo]

If the tabs are broken, the cases cannot be locked on the bike. The tab locks the primary handle (which is responsible for openning the lids) , which in turn locks the secondary handle which controls the tab that connects to the rails.

I can attach the bags to the bike and fold the carry handle down to latch them to the bike. The tabs would keep the handles in the down and locked position to prevent removal from the bike. They'll stay latched to the bike until you pull the carry handles back up to the carry position. Although there is a chance that the handle could work it's way up and release the bags while riding though.

[jas]

Airman, I understand what you are saying but goomicoo stated

Yes, both tabs are toast. I can just use them the way they are but I would like to be able to lock them on the bike....)

The cases do not need the tabs to “latch” or attatch to the bike, and in fact, even without the tabs, the cases will remain on the rails without any real problems. Prior to repairing my bags, I rode 15K miles with broken tabs. It would take a lot of force for the bags to become disengaged from the bike ( if properly attached).

But the ability to truly lock the cases on the bike requires the tabs or a creative mind.

Goomicoo – If you are only worried about the bags staying in place while riding, or wish to deter a potential thief, use CycleRob’s pin method. This will allow for a very static mounting, making it all but impossible to lose a bag while riding.

http://r1150r.org/board/viewtopic.php?f ... ase+system

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